Thursday 8 January 2015

S4M21: Je Suis Charlie

A sombre title this week, and one that has little to do with the last week's football. Just wanted to register my support.

It's always difficult to come back after a break and talk about the football from yore. My memory rarely permits details from more than a few minutes ago to remain, so New Year's Day is a bit of a stretch. Man City, Southampton and Spurs probably the big winners - and Liverpool who profited from some (more) shocking officiating to get a draw that they didn't deserve 'cos of the decisions and the throwing away of a 2-0 lead.

That lets me segue into Stevie G's big move. It's an interesting one, and as a neutral ( 36 games a season), I'm not quite sure how I feel about it. We'd all love to have a Gerrard - a one-club man (not one-man club as Stewart Robson kept saying on Talksport - that's something different, although arguably also relevant to Liverpool) who supported the club as a boy, came up through the youth to captain a pretty successful side, and being one of the best players in the league for around a decade (allowing for incline and decline either end). We'd all love our club to have a reliable set piece taker, a guy with the ability to take the game by the scruff of the neck, with a versatility to his game that allows him to reinvent himself every few years.

On the other side, he's clearly on the slide. His great strength - his physicality - is only going to worsen. If he can't be trusted to shield, and he isn't mobile enough to play up top, then where does that leave him? The obvious comparison is Lampard at Chelsea (and now City), or even Giggs/Scholes...to come on and retain possession, and provide dressing room/training pitch leadership and experience. I don't know why Rodgers doesn't trust him to do that - he's certainly an intelligent enough player to adapt, even if it's not his natural game. Maybe it's a wages thing?

Regardless, it's a shame to lose a good player, and seemingly nice guy, even if it weakens Liverpool.

The other big issue this week has been Ched Evans and Oldham. My take on it is roughly alligned with this piece - http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/ched-evans-has-served-his-time--and-other-misconceptions-about-the-convicted-rapist-footballer-9957849.html I know he's released a half-arsed apology today, but that should have been offered up years ago. I have a major bugbear with the line 'he's served his time' - he has not. I also have an issue with the comparisons to other jailed footballers - especially those relating to death by dangerous driving - a totally different type of offence and one for which the individuals concerned seem to have shown remorse. Evans, for all his blather, clearly does not understand the law of consent, as he is applying to have his case reviewed - he still feels himself to be innocent. This is the crux for me - he has not completed his punishment, is obviously not rehabilitated and, the privilege argument aside (as I don't think it's relevant), those 2 factors should make him presently unemployable. He has a right to work - but he doesn't have the right to expect someone to employ him.

Had he admitted his crime, apologised and then spent his time since release trying to atone for it - I don't know how given the limitations on working with children or vulnerable people - I think people would have much less an issue with him trying to find a club. Maybe a good start would be a donation of a year's wages to a shelter for abused women? I dunno. Happy to entertain debate (on anything) below.

This week's blog got very serious. Dunno where that came from!

Let's get statty:

Last week, 19 people played
Most popular predicted results: Liverpool, Man City & Chelsea WINS
Most disputed results: Southampton vs Arsenal (3-8-8 split)

Highest odds: Josh Daniels, 6445/1
Lowest odds: Steven Daniels 2117/1
Average odds: 3871/1

One can only guess what AFM would have got!

Best predictors: Me, David Silverman & Tarek Najm (4/10)
Worst predictors: Lots of you (2/10)
Average score: 2.79/10. Congrats guys - not just the lowest score this season, but the lowest average ever!!!

Best predicted result: Man City WIN (19/19)
Worst predicted results: Spurs WIN, Liverpool vs Leicester DRAW (0/19)

Everyone's scores:





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No comments - to next week's predos...

Sunderland vs Liverpool - DRAW
Burnley vs QPR - BURNLEY
Chelsea vs Newcastle - CHELSEA
Everton vs Man City - MAN CITY
Leicester vs Aston Villa - LEICESTER
Swansea vs West Ham - SWANSEA
WBA vs Hull - WBA
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - SPURS
Arsenal vs Stoke - ARSENAL
Man Utd vs Southampton - MAN UTD

Total odds: 1021/1 (PaddyPower)

Good luck folks!

14 comments:

Tarek said...

Sunderland vs Liverpool - DRAW
Burnley vs QPR - BURNLEY
Chelsea vs Newcastle - CHELSEA
Everton vs Man City - MAN CITY
Leicester vs Aston Villa - ASTON VILLA
Swansea vs West Ham - DRAW
WBA vs Hull - WBA
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - DRAW
Arsenal vs Stoke - ARSENAL
Man Utd vs Southampton - MAN UTD

Steven said...

Sunderland vs Liverpool - LIVERPOOL
Burnley vs QPR - DRAW
Chelsea vs Newcastle - CHELSEA
Everton vs Man City - MAN CITY
Leicester vs Aston Villa - DRAW
Swansea vs West Ham - DRAW
WBA vs Hull - DRAW
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - SPURS
Arsenal vs Stoke - ARSENAL
Man Utd vs Southampton - MAN UTD

Total odds: 2662/1 (PaddyPower)

Menachem said...

Sunderland vs Liverpool - Liverpool
Burnley vs QPR - Draw
Chelsea vs Newcastle - Chelsea
Everton vs Man City - Man City
Leicester vs Aston Villa - Leicester
Swansea vs West Ham - Swansea
WBA vs Hull - Draw
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - Spurs
Arsenal vs Stoke - Arsenal
Man Utd vs Southampton - Man Utd

On the issue of Ched Evans, overall I sympathise with him a great deal. He made a mistake, granted a big one (assuming his conviction isn't quashed), but he has served the time that he was required to serve in prison (which is the most we can ask of him), and still remains on parole and restricted to some degree. To my mind, like every other criminal out there, he should have the right to be able to return to his normal life - without such interference from many people completely unconnected the case. It goes without saying that society must restrict rapists from entering professions that might give them the opportunity to commit further offences of this nature, but I don't think football is one of them. I have heard from many people that footballers represent their clubs' supporters and are looked up to as role models, and this makes him unfit to be a footballer. I find this very uncomfortable - footballers do deserve some respect because of the hard work, determination and self-discipline it takes to become a professional, but beyond that they should not be thought of as role models and parents should, in my view, do their best to explain this to their children. This is because they are often very uneducated (a flaw in our education system) and because many footballers in the past have shown that they should not be looked up to for their actions (e.g. Roy Keane, Eric Cantona, Joey Barton, Ryan Giggs (possibly), and I'm sure others can add to this list).

My sympathy also goes out to him because of the facts of his case. In short, his case was far from cut and dry, and doesn't even compare to other cases of rape I have read. People will argue 'rape is rape', but I don't agree, there are degrees and his seems to be very low on the scale, although people don't seem to want to recognise this.

At present Ched Evans is guilty of rape and stupidity - both for not apologising sooner, and for not realising the PR issues at hand and trying to tackle them, perhaps by donating to charity as RD suggests. Clearly he feels wronged by the criminal justice system as he maintains his innocence, but he should understand what a conviction means to behave accordingly, at least until his case review is completed. In my mind, however, these do not warrant the responses that his attempts to return to society have received. Getting him back into normal society is vital for rehabilitation, and he should be permitted to do so in so far as the law permits. It seems to me that he is being treated this way less because of his crime and more because of the way rape was treated in past decades by men, and this is why he has my sympathy.

Josh Gaon said...

Sunderland vs Liverpool - Liverpool
Burnley vs QPR - BURNLEY
Chelsea vs Newcastle - CHELSEA
Everton vs Man City - MAN CITY
Leicester vs Aston Villa - DRAW
Swansea vs West Ham - DRAW
WBA vs Hull - WBA
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - SPURS
Arsenal vs Stoke - ARSENAL
Man Utd vs Southampton - MAN UTD

Eli D said...

Sunderland vs Liverpool - Liverpool
Burnley vs QPR - Burnley
Chelsea vs Newcastle - Chelsea
Everton vs Man City - Man City
Leicester vs Aston Villa - Leicester
Swansea vs West Ham - Draw
WBA vs Hull - Draw
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - Draw
Arsenal vs Stoke - Arsenal
Man Utd vs Southampton - Man Utd

Doron said...

Sunderland vs Liverpool - LIVERPOOL
Burnley vs QPR - BURNLEY
Chelsea vs Newcastle - CHELSEA
Everton vs Man City - MAN CITY
Leicester vs Aston Villa - DRAW
Swansea vs West Ham - DRAW
WBA vs Hull - WBA
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - SPURS
Arsenal vs Stoke - ARSENAL
Man Utd vs Southampton - MAN UTD

1219/1

Richard V said...

Sorry didn't have internet access before fa cup weekend. Did manage to watch first half of United's dismal display, what a waste of time that was.

Sunderland vs Liverpool - Liverpool
Burnley vs QPR - draw
Chelsea vs Newcastle - CHELSEA
Everton vs Man City - MAN CITY
Leicester vs Aston Villa - draw
SWANSEA vs West Ham - draw
WBA vs Hull - WBA
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - SPURS
Arsenal vs Stoke - ARSENAL
Man Utd vs Southampton - MAN UTD

Joe Abbott said...

Sunderland vs Liverpool - Liverpool
Burnley vs QPR - Burnley
Chelsea vs Newcastle - Chelsea
Everton vs Man City - Man City
Leicester vs Aston Villa - Draw
Swansea vs West Ham - Draw
WBA vs Hull - WBA
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - Draw
Arsenal vs Stoke - Arsenal
Man Utd vs Southampton - Man Utd

Will O'Doherty said...

Sunderland vs Liverpool - LIVERPOOL
Burnley vs QPR - BURNLEY
Chelsea vs Newcastle - CHELSEA
Everton vs Man City - MAN CITY
Leicester vs Aston Villa - VILLA
Swansea vs West Ham - SWANSEA
WBA vs Hull - WBA
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - SPURS
Arsenal vs Stoke - ARSENAL
Man Utd vs Southampton - MAN UTD

David Dinkin said...

Sunderland vs Liverpool - DRAW
Burnley vs QPR - DRAW
Chelsea vs Newcastle - CHELSEA
Everton vs Man City - MAN CITY
Leicester vs Aston Villa - LEICESTER
Swansea vs West Ham - SWANSEA
WBA vs Hull - WBA
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - SPURS
Arsenal vs Stoke - ARSENAL
Man Utd vs Southampton - MAN UTD

Sam Ruback said...

Sunderland vs Liverpool - DRAW
Burnley vs QPR - BURNLEY
Chelsea vs Newcastle - CHELSEA
Everton vs Man City - MAN CITY
Leicester vs Aston Villa - LEICESTER
Swansea vs West Ham - SWANSEA
WBA vs Hull - WBA
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - PALACE
Arsenal vs Stoke - ARSENAL
Man Utd vs Southampton - MAN UTD

1466/1

Feneley said...

AF

Sunderland vs Liverpool - LIVERPOOL
Burnley vs QPR - BURNLEY
Chelsea vs Newcastle - CHELSEA
Everton vs Man City - MAN CITY
Leicester vs Aston Villa - LEICESTER
Swansea vs West Ham - DRAW
WBA vs Hull - HULL
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - CRYSTAL PALACE
Arsenal vs Stoke - ARSENAL
Man Utd vs Southampton - MAN UTD

2265/1

AFM

Sunderland vs Liverpool - SUNDERLAND
Burnley vs QPR - BURNLEY
Chelsea vs Newcastle - NEWCASTLE
Everton vs Man City - MAN CITY
Leicester vs Aston Villa - ASTON VILLA
Swansea vs West Ham - SWANSEA
WBA vs Hull - HULL
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - SPURS
Arsenal vs Stoke - STOKE
Man Utd vs Southampton - SOUTHAMPTON

423,648/1 (probably helped by betting against Arsenal and Chelsea)

Joshua Daniels said...

Sunderland vs Liverpool - draw
Burnley vs QPR - BURNLEY
Chelsea vs Newcastle - chelsea
Everton vs Man City - MAN CITY
Leicester vs Aston Villa - leicester
Swansea vs West Ham - draw
WBA vs Hull - WBA
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - Palace
Arsenal vs Stoke - Arsenal
Man Utd vs Southampton - draw

4229/1

Jonathan said...

Sunderland vs Liverpool - LIVERPOOL
Burnley vs QPR - DRAW
Chelsea vs Newcastle - CHELSEA
Everton vs Man City - MAN CITY
Leicester vs Aston Villa - DRAW
Swansea vs West Ham - SWANSEA
WBA vs Hull - HULL
Crystal Palace vs Spurs - SPURS
Arsenal vs Stoke - DRAW
Man Utd vs Southampton - MAN UTD